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Bud
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: We are going to run an ad for this site. Reply with quote

Let's say for discussion we decided to advertise this website.

Let's also say we have a well-designed, tested and proven print ad that we know has worked well in the past.

So we get a good deal on ad space, and run the ad in Woman's Home Journal. It is a very fancy magazine, has full color ads and glossy paper.

Any ideas on why that won't work, and what the lesson might be for a small business running print ads?
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'll take a stab at it

It most likely will fail primarily due to the fact that the target audience is not correct. How many readers of LHJ are auto shop owners? Do they really want to subscribe to an auto related website?

On the other hand, how many readers have husbands that work too many hours making too little money running an auto shop? You may have some interest but not enough to warrant running the ad in LHJ.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. The people we want to reach don't read that publication.

Implications for any small business are ads in newspapers, magazines, on bus stop signs, and anywhere else have to be where they will read by the target prospects.

For repair shops I've done best with direct mail.

A simple formula: The right message, to the right audience, delivered the right way.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud wrote:
Exactly. The people we want to reach don't read that publication.

Implications for any small business are ads in newspapers, magazines, on bus stop signs, and anywhere else have to be where they will read by the target prospects.

For repair shops I've done best with direct mail.

A simple formula: The right message, to the right audience, delivered the right way.


Good post, Bud.

For what it's worth, we find direct mail works great for existing customers, but lousy for bringing in new customers. For new we have the best success with radio, drive by, and especially other shops who do not do all that we do.

By the way, print advertising for a site like this works poorly regardless of what print media you select. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, print advertising for a site like this works poorly regardless of what print media you select.

Wow. That is quite an odd statement. Businesses of all types are effetively using print ads to lead people to their websites.

Please explain how you've arrived at your conclusion.
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Tom Ham



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud wrote:
By the way, print advertising for a site like this works poorly regardless of what print media you select.

Wow. That is quite an odd statement. Businesses of all types are effetively using print ads to lead people to their websites.

Please explain how you've arrived at your conclusion.


Tracking. Print consistently had the lowest R.O.I.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like you are referring to print ads you and other shop owners have used.

I wouldn't be suprised that you got lousy results, because print ads are brutal. If you can learn to write print ads, you can do any other type of ad as well.

You will be pleased to learn there is an entirely different world out there apart from car repair, and that those people have access to information you don't. Tons of info, years or research, thousands of studies, plus many findings, rules, principles and presepts, more than you'd ever care to read are at their disposal.

That is how this website is different from others that focus only on the car repair industry. This site is more academic. Here we are just trying to give small businesses a glimmer of what the big boys in advertising know.
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